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Author: John Hunter

  • 401(k)s are a Great Way to Save for Retirement

    401(k)s are a great way to save. Yes, today those that have been saving money have the disappointment of bad recent results. But that is a minor factor compared to the major problem: Americans not saving what they need to for retirement in 401(k)s, IRAs, even just emergency funds… Do not use the scary financial market performance recently as an excuse to avoid retirement savings (if you have actually been doing well).

    The importance of saving enough for retirement is actually increased by the recent results. You might have to re-evaluate your expectations and see whether you have been saving enough. I am actually considering increasing my contributions, mainly to take advantage of lower prices. But another benefit of doing so would be to add more to retirement savings, given me more safety in case long term results are not what I was hoping for.

    Now there can be some 401(k) plans that are less ideal. Limited investing options can make them less valuable. Those limited options could include the lack of good diverse choices, index funds, international, money market, real estate, short term bond funds… My real estate fund is down about 2% in the last year (unlike what some might think based on the media coverage of declining housing prices). And poor investing options could include diverse but not good options (options with high expenses… [ the article, see blow, mentions some with a 2% expense rate – that is horrible]).

    But those poor implementations of 401(K)s are not equivalent to making 401(k)s un-viable for saving. It might reduce the value of 401(k)s to some people (those will less good 401(k) plans). Or it might even make it so for people with bad 401(k) options that they should not save using it (or that they limit the amount in their 401k). I don’t know of such poor options, but it is theoretically possible.

    The tax deferral is a huge benefit. That benefit will only increase as tax rates rise (given the huge debt we have built up it is logical to believe taxes will go up to pay off spending today with the tax increases passed to the future to pay for our current spending).

    And if you get matching of 410(k) contributions that can often more than make up for other less than ideal aspects of a particular 401(k) option.

    Also once you leave a job you can roll the 401(k) assets into an IRA and invest in a huge variety of assets. So even if the 401k options are not great, it is normally wise to add to them and then just roll them into an IRA when you leave. If the plan is bad, also you can use an IRA for your first $5,000 in annual retirement savings and then add additional amounts in the 401k (if they are matching funds normally adding enough to get the matching is best).

    401(k)s, 403(b), IRAs… are still great tools for saving. The performance of financial markets recently have been poor. Accepting periods of poor performance is hard psychologically. But retirement accounts are still a excellent tool for saving for retirement. Using them correctly is important: allocating resources correctly, moving into safer asset allocations as one approaches and reaches retirement…
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  • Crisis May Push USA Federal Deficit to Above $1 Trillion for 2009

    Cost of U.S. Crisis Action Grows, Along With Debt

    The global financial crisis is turning into a bigger drain on the U.S. federal budget than experts estimated two weeks ago, ballooning the deficit toward $2 trillion.
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    The 2009 budget deficit could be close to $2 trillion, or 12.5 percent of gross domestic product, more than twice the record of 6 percent set in 1983, according to David Greenlaw, Morgan Stanley’s chief economist. Two weeks ago, budget analysts said the measures might push deficit to as much as $1.5 trillion.
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    The financial health and earnings prospects of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — seized by the government on Sept. 7 to prevent them from failing — worsened in the second and third quarters, the companies’ government regulator said this week.
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    On top of all that, budget watchdogs say the sheer size of the interventions is making Washington more profligate than usual. To attract votes in Congress, leaders added several costly items to the $700 billion rescue, including extensions of some tax credits and tax breaks for makers of wooden arrows and stock- car racetrack owners.

    Under normal circumstances, there would have been more resistance to such expenses, said Robert Bixby, executive director of the Concord Coalition, a non-partisan budget watchdog.

    The news sure is not yet getting better. And our failure to act responsibly in good times now seriously increase risk. Just as someone that lived far beyond their means, with excessive debt, debt on multiple credit cards… we have continually elected politicians that had our government live beyond our means for decades. And that means we don’t have the resources to pay for the measures we are talking. For now the world markets are willing to give the USA government more credit cards to finance more spending. But at some point that stops.

    At some point the loans have to be paid back. The only options are large reductions in spending, large increases in taxes or just printing more and more money people don’t want to pay off loans (which will cause massive inflation). There is also the possibility of growing our way out of the problems (the equivalent of yes, I have $40,000 in credit card debt but when I make $150,000 a year paying that off will be easy). To some extent this will happen (unless things get very very bad) but the level of economic growth needed is unlikely to fix the problem we make worse every year (as we fall further and further behind). We are now spending huge amounts to money we didn’t save in the good times. That means we are mortgaging even more of our future than we already had before this mess.

    Related: Financial Market Meltdown – Warren Buffett Webcast on the Credit Crisis – FDIC Limit Raised to $250,000 – Financial Markets Continue Panicky Behavior – USA Federal Debt Now $516,348 Per Household

    Plan Pushed for Government to Buy Bank Stocks

    Bank nationalization would be a more extraordinary move for the US, but in a recent interview former FDIC Chairman William Isaac provided some rare insight into the matter. He said that during the Latin American debt crisis of the 1980s when major money center banks were facing possible loan payment defaults by sovereign governments, the US “had a contingency plan in place to nationalize [the banks].”

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  • Soros on the Financial Market Collapse

    George Soros published his most recent book in May 2008 – The New Paradigm for Financial Markets: The Credit Crisis of 2008 and What It Means. Yesterday Bill Moyers Interviewed George Soros:

    Markets have the ability to adjust and they’re very flexible. There is this invisible hand. But it is also prone to be mistaken.
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    This current economic disaster is self-generated. It was generated by the market itself, by getting too cocky, using leverage too much, too much credit. And it got excessive.
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    The financial system is teetering on the edge of disaster. Hopefully, it will not go over the brink because it very rarely does. It only did in the 1930s. Since then, whenever you had a financial crisis, you were able to resolve it.
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    the sort of period where America could actually, for instance, run ever increasing current account deficits. We could consume, at the end, six and a half percent more than we are producing. That has come to an end.
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    Right now you already have 10 million homes where you have negative equity. And before you are over, it will be more than 20 million.

    Related: Soros Says Credit Crisis Will Worsen Before Improving (April 2008) – Warren Buffett Webcast on the Credit Crisis – Rodgers on the US and Chinese Economies – – Personal Investment Failures

  • Canadian Banks Avoid Failures Common Elsewhere

    Canada’s banking system kept high and dry by strict regulation: Flaherty

    High banking standards have kept Canada’s financial institutions afloat and out of the kind of trouble that has sunk many of their international peers, Finance Minister Jim Flaherty said Wednesday.
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    Some of the fundamentals credited with keeping Canada’s banks in the safe zone were put in place nearly a decade ago by the Liberal government of Jean Chretien, including a refusal to approve any Canadian bank mergers.
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    The finance minister said Canada is in a strong position to deal with the global crisis, with a strong banking system, a stable housing market and a federal budget surplus. “Other countries have been increasing their deposit standards, but they’re still for the most part below the high Canadian standard,” he said.

    Related: Monopolies and Oligopolies do not a Free Market Make – Too Big to Fail – What Should You Do With Your Government “Stimulus” Check? – The Budget Deficit, the Current Account Deficit and the Saving Deficit – 2nd Largest Bank Failure in USA History

  • Corporate and Government Bond Rates Graph

    graph of 10 year bond rates

    Over the last 3 months the yields on corporate bonds have increased while treasury bonds have decreased. The chart shows the move away from lower quality bonds to higher quality though probably not as dramatically as actually has taken place as it is just an average for each month (and in September the flight to quality became extreme at the end of the month). While the Fed did not announce a formal cut in the discount rate, the average rate for overnight loans from the Fed last month was 1.81%.

    The spread between 10 year Aaa corporate bond yields and 10 year government bonds increased to 196 basis points. In January, 2008 the spread was 159 points. The larger the spread the more people demand in interest, to compensate for the increased risk. The spread between government bonds and Baa corporate bonds increased to 362 basis points, the spread was 280 basis point in January. The rate on government bonds has barely change (decreasing from 3.74% in January to 3.69% now) so the change has nearly all been in increased corporate bond rates.

    Data from the federal reserve – corporate Aaa – corporate Baa – ten year treasury – fed funds

    Related: Bond Yields 2005 to June 2008 – 30 Year Fixed Mortgage Rates versus the Fed Funds Rate – Curious Cat Investing and Economics Search – posts on interest rates

  • Financial Markets Continue Panicky Behavior

    The panic driven declines in worldwide stock markets have been remarkable. Deciding whether to join the panic and sell, or hold firm, or buy in now is very difficult. In general trying to time the stock market is difficult and not something many have succeeded trying to do. When I look at the long term values of individual stocks I see plenty that seem like bargains to me. Of course I have no idea if they will be greater bargains in a week, a month or a year. And I could easily be wrong that they are bargains at all.

    Still I have bought some Google (GOOG), Templeton Dragon Fund (TDF), Toyota (TM) and ATP Oil (ATPG). The first three I am happy to buy and hold for 10 years (and actually there is a greater than 90% chance I will hold the shares I have now own 10 years from now). The fourth one is fairly speculative, we will see how it goes. I did sell one stock, not because I think it is overvalued but because I liked what I could buy if I sold it (the price had held up well so relatively I could trade it for more shares of what I wanted today than I could have a month or 6 months… ago) – Comtech Telecommunications (CMTL). Often those stocks that hold up well in declines are very strong and do very well once the market corrects, so this could well turn out to be a mistake.

    Trying to time when things have hit bottom is very difficult. So I am not trying to do that. I did not invest all my cash now, and will be adding to my positions over the next year (most likely). I have been fortunately that I have been saving up cash and not buying into the market much (I wasn’t smart enough to sell though, and my retirement accounts were still going into stock funds primarily). I am guessing the declining prospects (due to the worsening economy) on the stocks I am buying have been more than offset by the declining stock prices. Only time will tell whether that was a profitable move or not.

    Related: Does a Declining Stock Market Worry You? – 12 Stocks for 10 Years June 2008 Update – Beating the Market – Another Great Quarter for Amazon

  • Poll: 60% say Depression Likely

    I would say the chance of a depression in the next 5 years is very unlikely. The last 2 years have been full of bad economic news but a depression is still not likely, in my opinion. However, much of the public, seems to think it is likely – Poll: 60% say depression ‘likely’

    The CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll, which surveyed more than 1,000 Americans over the weekend, cited common measures of the economic pain of the 1930s:

    * 25% unemployment rate
    * Widespread bank failures
    * Millions of Americans homeless and unable to feed their families

    In response, 21% of those polled say that a depression is very likely and another 38% say it is somewhat likely. The poll also found that 29% feel a depression is not very likely, while 13% believe it is not likely at all.
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    The economists surveyed by CNNMoney.com said they saw a drop of 2% to 4% in a worst case scenario.

    I must say I don’t think those polled don’t really hold their belief very firmly. If you actually see a depression as likely you have to take drastic steps with your finances. I really doubt many of them are and instead think they are casually saying they think it is likely without really thinking about what that would mean.

    I don’t see it as likely and don’t see any need to change significantly what made good personal financial sense 2 years ago. The biggest change I see (over the last couple of months) is the importance of taking smart person finance actions has increased dramatically. The smart moves are pretty much the same but the risks to failing to create an emergency fund, abusing your credit card, losing a job… have increased dramatically.

    Related: Uncertain Economic Times – Personal Finance Basics: Health Insurance – Financial Illiteracy Credit Trap

  • Warren Buffett Webcast on the Credit Crisis


    Warren Buffett     quotes from the interview:

    • “In my lifetime I don’t think I have ever seen people as fearful economically as they are now”
    • “The major institutions in the world are all wanting to de-leverage”
    • “I don’t like what is going on with executive compensation“
    • “unemployment is going to go up under any circumstances, the 6.1 [% unemployment rate] is going to go higher, but whether it quits at 7% or whether it quites at 10, 11 or 12, depends on, among other things the wisdom of congress, and then the wisdom of caring out the plan congress authorizes”
    • “I just wonder if it [the $700 billion bailout] is enough”
    • “AIG would be doing fine today if they never heard of derivatives… I said they were possibly financial weapons of mass destruction and they have been, I mean they destroyed AIG, they certainly contributed to the destruction of Bear Stearns and Lehman”
    • The biggest single cause was that we had an incredible residential real estate bubble.
    • [on consuming more than we are producing] I don’t think it is the most pressing problem at all. We are trading away a little bit of our country all the time for the excess consumption that we have, over what we produce. That is not good. I think it is terrible over time.

    Related: Warren Buffett related posts – Credit Crisis Continues – Credit Crisis (August 2007)

  • FDIC Limit Raised to $250,000

    The FDIC limit has been raised to $250,000 which is a good thing. The increased limit is only a temporary measure (through Dec 31, 2009) but hopefully it will be extended before it expires. I don’t see anything magical about $250,000 but something like $200,000 (or more) seems reasonable to me. The coverage level was increased to $100,000 in 1980.

    What does federal deposit insurance cover?
    FDIC insurance covers funds in deposit accounts, including checking and savings accounts, money market deposit accounts and certificates of deposit (CDs). FDIC insurance does not, however, cover other financial products and services that insured banks may offer, such as stocks, bonds, mutual fund shares, life insurance policies, annuities or municipal securities.

    Joint accounts are covered for $250,000 per co-owner. The limit is per person, per institution, so all your accounts at one institution are added together. If you have $200,000 in CDs and $100,000 in savings you would have $50,000 that is not covered.

    FDIC is an excellent example of good government in action. The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) was created in 1933 and serves to stabilize banking by eliminating the need to get ahead of any panic about whether the bank you have funds in is in trouble (which then leads to people creating a run on the bank…)

    From an FDIC September 25 2008 news release: the current FDIC balance is $45 billion (that is after a decrease of $7.6 billion in the second quarter). The FDIC is 100% paid for by fees on banks. The FDIC can raise the fees charged banks if the insurance fund needs to get increased funds.
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  • Leverage, Complex Deals and Mania

    Anyone involved in finance should understand mania in the markets. It is not a shock that financial markets do irrational things. They do so very frequently. Anyone who has not read, Manias, Panics, and Crashes: A History of Financial Crises, should do so. Leverage often is a catalyst that turns bad investments into panics that damage the economy. A previous post on this topic: Misuse of Statistics – Mania in Financial Markets.

    Enron was the pit canary, but its death went unheeded

    Just as Enron packaged bad investments into a private equity fund run by its chief financial officer, Wall Street packaged mortgages given to people who couldn’t afford the payments into sleek new instruments called RMBS and CDOs. But Enron’s machinations couldn’t make the losses go away, and Wall Street’s shiny acronyms can’t turn a defaulted mortgage into good money.

    As for the lessons we’ve forgotten, how about this one: financial statements aren’t supposed to be fairytales.
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    when all was booming, Wall Streeters said they deserved their pay because the market said they were worth it. But now things are falling apart, they say the market doesn’t work, and we need to stop short-selling, and taxpayers need to pony up. If there is a tiny bit of good in all this, it’s that Wall Street, although it was complicit in the Enron mess, managed to walk away relatively unscathed. This time, Wall Street has brought itself down.

    I think the odds that Wall Street has brought itself down is very low. Even that the ludicrous excesses of Wall Street are at risk is very unlikely. Perhaps for a few years their might be some restraints put on excesses. But most likely politicians will respond to huge payments by arranging favors for those that want to bring excesses back. If this can be prevented that would be great, but I doubt it will.

    Related: Investing books – Tilting at Ludicrous CEO Pay – Losses Covered Up to Protect Bonuses