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  • Commercial Real Estate Market Prospects Remain Dim

    Why This Real Estate Bust Is Different by Mara Der Hovanesian and Dean Foust

    But the Goldman deal, with its unrealistic assumptions, multiple layers of investors, and stratospheric prices, helps illustrate why this downturn is more complicated than previous ones—and will turn out to be far costlier. Already, prices have plunged 41% from the peak in 2007, according to Moody’s/REAL Commercial Property Price Index—worse than the 30.5% fall in the housing market from its 2006 apex. “We’ve never seen this extreme a correction as far back as the data go, which is the late 1960s,” says Neal Elkin, president of Real Estate Analytics, the research firm that created the index. Adds billionaire investor Wilbur Ross: “Commercial real estate has gone from being highly liquid at sky-high prices to being extremely illiquid at distressed prices.”
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    While the housing crisis seems to be easing, the commercial storm is still gathering strength. Between now and 2012, more than $1.4 trillion worth of commercial real estate loans will come due…

    The USA commercial real estate market, by many account, is going to continue to have trouble. I would like to add to my commercial real estate holdings in my retirement account, because I have so little (and other options are not that great), but with the current prospects I am not ready to move. I would not be surprised if the market comes back sooner than people expect: it seems like it is far too fashionable to have bearish feelings about the market. However, it doesn’t seem like the risk reward trade-off is worth it yet.

    Related: Commercial Real Estate Market Still Slumping – Victim of Real Estate Bust: Your Pension – Nearly 10% of Mortgages Delinquent or in Foreclosure (Dec 2008) – Urban Planning

  • Volcker on the Great Recession and Need for Reform

    America Must ‘Reassert Stability and Leadership’

    SPIEGEL: Can the current situation be compared with the Great Depression?

    Volcker: I remember there were people, beggars and tramps as we called them, who wanted to be fed. So it’s true, today we also have people who are relying on food stamps and other payments but we are a long way from the Great Depression. We are in a serious, great recession. Today we have 10 percent unemployment, but at that time it was more like 20 or 25 percent. That’s a big difference. You had mass unemployment.
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    SPIEGEL: Are you sure? The Wall Street businesses are doing well. The big bonuses are back.

    Volcker: It’s amazing how quickly some people want to forget about the trouble and go back to business as usual. We face a real challenge in dealing with that feeling that the crisis is over. The need for reform is obviously not over. It’s hard to deny that we need some forward looking financial reform.
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    SPIEGEL: But the American government seems to have lost some eagerness in setting a tougher regime of rules and regulations to control Wall Street. Everything is being watered down. Why?

    Volcker: I will do the best I can to fight any tendency to water it down. What we need is broad international consensus to make things happen.

    I am surprised how many people are trying to compare the economic situation today (often using unemployment rates) and say we are in nearly as bad a situation as the great depression. The economy is certainly struggling, great recession, is a good term for it, I think. But taking the high measures of unemployment and underemployment today and comparing it to unemployment in the 1930’s is not comparing like numbers. The employment situation is bad now. It was much worse in the great depression. As intended, support systems like unemployment pay, FDIC, food stamps… have worked to reduce the depth of the recession.

    He is right that we need serious reform to the deregulation that allowed the credit crisis to explode the economy.

    Related: Volcker: Economic Decline Faster Now Than Any Time He Remembers – The Economy is in Serious Trouble (Nov 2008) – Unemployment Rate Reached 10.2% – Canada’s Sound Regulation Resulted in a Sound Banking System Even During the Credit Crisis

  • Bond Rates Remain Low, Little Change Over Last Few Months

    chart showing corporate and government bond yieldsChart showing corporate and government bond yields from 2005-2009 by Curious Cat Investing Economics Blog, Creative Commons Attribution, data from the Federal Reserve.

    Bond yields have remained low, with little change over the last 4 months. Earlier in the year, yield spreads decreased dramatically, and those reductions have remained over the last 4 months. The federal funds rate remains under .25%.

    Data from the federal reserve: corporate Aaa – corporate Baa – ten year treasury – fed funds

    Related: Continued Large Spreads Between Corporate and Government Bond Yields (April 2009) – Chart Shows Wild Swings in Bond Yields (Jan 2009) – investing and economic charts

  • Roubini Doesn’t See Jobs Rebounding Until Late 2010

    The Worst is yet to Come: Unemployed Americans Should Hunker Down for More Job Losses by Nouriel Roubini

    Conditions in the U.S. labor markets are awful and worsening. While the official unemployment rate is already 10.2% and another 200,000 jobs were lost in October, when you include discouraged workers and partially employed workers the figure is a whopping 17.5%.

    While losing 200,000 jobs per month is better than the 700,000 jobs lost in January, current job losses still average more than the per month rate of 150,000 during the last recession.

    Also, remember: The last recession ended in November 2001, but job losses continued for more than a year and half until June of 2003; ditto for the 1990-91 recession.

    So we can expect that job losses will continue until the end of 2010 at the earliest.
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    There’s really just one hope for our leaders to turn things around: a bold prescription that increases the fiscal stimulus with another round of labor-intensive, shovel-ready infrastructure projects, helps fiscally strapped state and local governments and provides a temporary tax credit to the private sector to hire more workers.
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    Based on my best judgment, it is most likely that the unemployment rate will peak close to 11% and will remain at a very high level for two years or more.

    Roubini has predicted negative economic results and been right for the last few years. I am uncertain about with the short term economic outlook. I can certainly imagine the slow job recovery he predicts will happen. I am hopeful we will see jobs increasing before that but the news in the last few months has not made that prospect seem more likely. And the long term outlook is getting worse with the huge government debt being added as a burden for the future economy.

    Related: Nouriel Roubini Believes Stock Market has Risen too Far, too Fast – Unemployment Rate Reached 10.2% – Why the Dollar is Falling

  • Economic Measurement Issues Arising from Globalization

    One challenge of understanding the state of the economy is we don’t have clear measures. We attempt to gather accurate data but there is quite a bit of inaccuracy in the data (both from preliminary estimates – before all the data is in, which can take months, or longer – and just plain items we have to estimate no matter how long we have).

    Related: Manufacturing Data – Accuracy Questions – Why China’s Economic Data is Questionable – What Do Unemployment Statistics Mean? – Manufacturing Jobs Data: USA and China – The Long-Term USA Federal Budget Outlook – Is China’s Recovery for Real?

    Economists Seek to Fix a Defect in Data That Overstates the Nation’s Vigor

    The federal agencies that compile the nation’s statistics increasingly acknowledge that they lack the detailed data needed to calculate the impact of imported goods and services as imports rise from an insignificant 5 percent of all economic activity 35 years ago to more than 12 percent today, not counting petroleum. As a result, many imports are valued as if they were made in the United States and therefore higher in price than their imported counterparts.

    The problem is particularly acute in manufacturing. Imported components constitute an ever greater share of the computers, autos, appliances and other finished merchandise that roll off assembly lines in the United States – and an ever greater share of all of the nation’s imports.
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    The stated goal, among those at the conference, is to repair the statistics, but that requires several years, lots of money (from Congress) to gather more information about what companies are doing, and whole new procedures for measuring imports. Much of the conference was devoted to an analysis of the gap between existing data and reality, and ways to close that gap.

    The Measurement Issues Arising from the Growth of Globalization conference has thankfully provided open access to papers from the conference including:
    Offshoring Bias: The Effect of Import Price Mismeasurement on Manufacturing Productivity (more…)

  • Consumer Debt Down Over $100 Billion So Far in 2009

    One of the few good recent results of the economy has been a continuous decline in consumer debt. Consumer debt fell for the 8th consecutive month, for the first time, in September, declining by $15 billion.

    Consumer debt grew by about $100 each year from 2004 through 2007. In 2008 it increased $40 billion. In 2009 it has fallen over $100 billion so far: from $2,559 billion to $2,456 billion. This still leaves over $8,000 in consumer debt for every person in the USA and $20,000 per family.

    The huge amount of outstanding consumer and government debt remains a burden for the economy. At least some progress is being made to decrease consumer debt.

    Those living in USA have consumed far more than they have produced for decades. That is not sustainable. You don’t fix this problem by encouraging more spending and borrowing: either by the government or by consumers. The long term problem for the USA economy is that people have consuming more than they have been producing.

    The solution to this problem is to stop spending beyond your means by even increasing levels of personal and government debt. Thankfully over the last year at least consumer debt has been declining. Government debt has been exploding so unfortunately that problem has continued to get worse.

    As we know, interest rates have fallen a great deal over the last few years. the federal funds rate sits at essentially 0% and money market funds now yield under 1%. However, credit card accounts that are charging interest increase to an interest rate of 14.9% from 13.6% in the 3rd quarter of 2008. In 2004 the credit card interest rate was 13.2%, 2005 – 14.6%, 2006 – 14.7%, 2007 – 14.7%, 2008 – 13.6%. All credit card balances should be paid off every month to avoid these excessive interest rates.

    Data from the federal reserve and census bureau.

    Related: Consumer Debt Declined a Record $21.5 Billion in July – The USA Economy Needs to Reduce Personal and Government Debt – Let the Good Times Roll (using Credit)

  • Unemployment Rate Reached 10.2%

    The unemployment rate rose from 9.8 to 10.2% in October, and nonfarm
    payroll employment continued to decline (down another 190,000 jobs), the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. The largest job losses over the month were in construction, manufacturing, and retail trade.

    In October, the number of unemployed persons increased by 558,000 to 15.7
    million. The unemployment rate rose to 10.2%, the highest rate since April 1983. Since the start of the recession in December 2007, the number of unemployed persons has risen by 8.2 million, and the unemployment rate has grown by 530 basis points.

    Among the major worker groups, the unemployment rates for adult men (10.7%) rose in October. The jobless rates for adult women (8.1 percent), teenagers (27.6%), African-Americans (15.7%), and Hispanics (13.1%) were little changed over the month.

    The number of long-term unemployed (those jobless for 27 weeks and over) was little changed over the month at 5.6 million. In October, 35.6% of
    unemployed persons were long-term unemployed.

    The civilian labor force participation rate was little changed over the month
    at 65.1%. The employment-population ratio continued to decline in
    October, falling to 58.5%.

    The number of persons working part time for economic reasons (sometimes referred to as involuntary part-time workers) was little changed in October at 9.3 million. These individuals were working part time because their hours had been cut back or because they were unable to find a full-time job.

    Related: Unemployment Rate Rises to 8.1%, Highest Level Since 1983 (March 2009) – posts on employment – USA Unemployment Rate Jumps to 9.4% – Unemployment Rate Increases to 9.7%
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  • Data on the Largest Manufacturing Countries in 2008

    Manufacturing is an powerful driver of economic wealth. For years I have been providing data to counter the contention that the manufacturing base of the USA is gone and the little bit left was shrinking. The latest data again shows the USA is the largest manufacturer, and manufacturing in the USA continues to grow. It is true global manufacturing has begun to grow more rapidly than USA manufacturing in the last few years. I doubt many suspect that the USA’s share of manufacturing stayed stable from 1990 to 1995 then grew to 2000 took until 2006 to return to the 1990-1995 levels and then has declined in 2007 and 2008 a bit below the 1990 level and during that entire time was growing (even in 2007 and 2008).

    The USA’s share of the manufacturing output, of the countries that manufactured over $185 billion in 2008, 28% in 1990, 28% in 1995, 32% in 2000, 28% in 2005, 28% in 2006, 26% in 2007 and 24% in 2008. China’s share has grown from 4% in 1990, 6% in 1995, 10% in 2000, 13% in 2005, 14% in 2006, 16% in 2007 to 18% in 2008. Japan’s share has fallen from 22% in 1990 to 14% in 2008 (after increasing to 26% in 1995 then steadily falling). The USA has about 4.5% of the world population, China about 20%.

    Based on the latest UN Data, for global manufacturing, in billions of current US dollars:

    Country 1990 1995 2000 2005 2006 2007 2008
    USA 1,041 1,289 1,543 1,624 1,712 1,756 1,831
    China 145 300 484 734* 891* 1,106* 1,399**
    Japan 810 1,219 1,034 979 927 923 1,045
    Germany 438 517 392 571 608 711 767
    Italy 240 226 206 295 302 345 381
    United Kingdom 206 218 226 264 295 323 323
    France 200 233 190 255 255 287 306
    Russian Federation 120 64 45 124 157 206 256
    Brazil 120 125 96 137 163 201 237
    Korea 66 131 136 211 234 260 231
    Spain 112 104 98 160 170 196 222
    Mexico 62 67 133 154 175 182 197
    Canada 92 100 129 168 182 197 195
    India 51 61 69 122 141 177 188

    * I am using the data from last year that separated the manufacturing data (this year the data does not provide separate manufacturing data for China) instead of that shown in the most recent data (which doesn’t separate manufacturing)
    ** The China data is not provided for manufacturing alone. The percentage of manufacturing (to manufacturing, mining and utilities) was 78% for 2005-2007 (I used 78% of the manufacturing, mining and utilities figure provided in the 2008 data).

    I hope to write a series of posts examining global manufacturing data including looking at manufacturing data specifically (excluding mining and utility data).
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  • Nouriel Roubini Believes Stock Market has Risen too Far, too Fast

    Nouriel Roubini is still worried about the US economy, though he does believe we are coming to the end of the severe recession we have been in.

    I believe, that if you were worried about your portfolio being overweighted in stocks late last year, now is a good time to move some money out of the stock market. In December 2008, when many were selling in panic, I invested more in stocks.

    The stock market has been on a tear increasing

    1 December 2008 the S&P 500 was at 816
    1 January 2009 – 903
    6 March 2009 – 684 (the lowest point since 1996)
    1 May 2009 – 878
    1 August 2009 – 987
    5 October 2009 – 1040

    In 6 months, since the market hit a low on March 6th, it is up 52%. Certainly the decrease in prices seemed overdone. The 50% increase in prices seems overdone also. But trying to predict short term moves in the stock market (say under 1 year) is very difficult and few people can do so successfully (even if you can find lots of people offering their guesses). Predicting the economy, while not easy, is much much easier that predicting the stock market.
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  • Buffett: Economy Stable, But Residential Real Estate Has Improved

    Warren Buffet on the economy:

    Warren Buffett tells CNBC that while the economy “hasn’t gotten worse” but also hasn’t “gotten much better” over the past three months, he doesn’t expect a ‘double-dip’ recession and sees significant improvement in residential real estate.
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    BECKY: All right. Let me go at this another way. Let’s pretend you’re on a desert island for a month. There’s only one set of numbers you can get. What would it be?

    BUFFETT: Well, I would probably look at– perhaps freight car loadings and– perhaps– and– and truck tonnage moved and– but I’d want to look at a lot of figures.
    …
    BUFFETT: Well, I think that– unfortunately, I think that the — what– what– we’re really talking about reforming health insurance more than health care. So I– the incentives that produce the 16 or so percent of GDP that’s going to health care, I think unfortunately they’re getting– they’re going to get changed. But– so I think that we really– and I’m talking as much about reforming health care as we’re talking about reforming the insurance. And I think that will be an opportunity missed if we don’t do more about looking at what– what the incentives are in the present system and what they would be in an ideal system.

    Related: Buffett’s Fix for the Economy (Oct 2008) – Warren Buffett Webcast on the Credit Crisis – Warren Buffett on Taxes – Many Experts Say Health-Care System Inefficient, Wasteful